I tried Beautiful Textures, Keracare Butter Cream, they are ok moisturizers and not really for flat twist outs. My problem is not the twists or the definition, it is really the length.

Below, gave the best results of the week.
Hydralicious cowash. I sprayed a lil Elasta QP H2, rubbed in coconut oil, and used Cantu Shea Butter Leave In and Frederic Fekkai Glossing Cream I flat twisted the back up, and single twisted the top portion. I pulled the puff up with a stretch band.
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